I sent Scott Ryals some of the new stuff I hit to try out and he sent be back some cabs! Some rich reds to go under the wheel. This material is a little tricky, but it cuts all ways. The Cuprite nugget it was by was laced with chrysocolla. This area vein material historically had been called chrysocolla on quartz at the High Desert Crafts in Lakeveiw, Or. Mark has some of the gem silica in there cut. HWY 140 across from the Fairgrounds.